Joshua: It’s so true and it can be one of the most difficult things to do, especially for business owners and entrepreneurs, you hit those goals that you’ve been chasing and then you’re immediately like, “Ok, what’s next?” Instead of acknowledging I hit this target, and I have to remind myself of that all the time because I’m always like, “Ok, what the next thing?” and it doesn’t allow it to cement the progress and the growth that I’ve made and allow me to really claim it unless I do that. And that’s kind of the next step in the process too which you guys talk about: The Landing. The book is called It’s The Landing That Counts. Tell me what that really means.
Warren: There are small landings and there are large landings. We need to pay attention to both. Whenever there is a point at which you’ve realized that now you’ve moved past whatever challenge there was and, like we talked about, some of those could be internal or physical in some way, when you have reached that next stage, you take that next step up on the ladder towards you goal. We have to pay attention to that step because I’ve actually seen this many times with business owners and individuals, is that if you do not pay attention to the step you’ve taken and the progress you’ve made you can actually negate it and you can fall back because you didn’t pay attention to the growth you have made. I’ve actually seen it happen because they’ve decided to not pay attention or disregard growth then it was almost taken away from them, because they just didn’t allow it. There is something when you cement that landing and pay attention to it and be grateful for it and acknowledge it, then it becomes part of you. But if you don’t, it hasn’t solidified and it can disappear really easily.
Joshua: Yeah, you know it’s so true what you say and I think about this in relationships, and how often it is that we focus on what the next thing is or how something isn’t working or how we really want it to be this way instead. And we sabotage the relationship because we’re not even focused on all of the growth and the progress and all the things that you’ve overcome together and how often that can affect those things too. I don’t know, it just came to mind as I was sitting here and listening to you. This concept that you’re talking about right now is so, so important in every area to actually acknowledge it, because it’s like adding strength to your foundation for your life. It’s adding strength to that base of who you are, so you are that much stronger going forward.
Warren: And it’s a fun thing to celebrate. There are companies that have removed celebration from their corporate culture and they are completely unaware that it’s totally shot them in the foot. Whether it’s on an executive level or whether it’s on a lower level, everybody needs to be able to celebrate their wins, and they need to be able to feel that and internalize that and this is what promotes further growth. But when you see these situations whether they are individual, corporate or whatever size it disappears, we need that solidification to continue with growth.
Joshua: Absolutely, absolutely so true. And the final step in the process, which I love, is giving back, you have a great quote that you started this chapter out with which I feel kind of illustrates this really well. It’s by Gandhi and it says, “The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others.” Tell me why giving back is kind of the final step in that process and why this is so important.
Warren: Well, I believe that giving back feeds our soul on multiple levels and when we give back – to speak to mental illness for a moment – whether its mental illness or whether its temporary mental difficulties, depression, anxieties, things of that kind, it is a very self-absorbed state. And I mean that in the neutral way, not that a person is deliberately trying to be self-absorbed, but depression, anxiety and challenges of that kind just create this, they create a very self-absorbed state. And when we can give back and when we can go outside of ourselves and how this also solidifies whatever landings we’ve made, we now are able to not be inside of ourselves anymore and realize that we’re all in this together. When we can be of inspiration in whatever capacity that we want to give back, we now are moving ourselves up to a higher level. There is a gratitude that comes with that, there’s a self-awareness that comes with that, just like Gandhi mentioned, that can’t be achieved in any other way. You can’t go outside of yourself without giving back, without being of service in some way to others and it’s a great way to get out of self-absorption and realize that generally there is a much larger picture going on to anything any one of us individually is experiencing.
Joshua: Right. Well Warren I want to thank you for sharing everything that you shared. Thanks for taking us through the process here with the road map that you guys have really created and laid out through It’s the Landing That Counts to help people find that peace, find that happiness, regain that prosperity when your life gets hit with divorce, with addiction, with business struggles, with unemployment or whatever those major, major crises are in your life. This is a great, great book and I do highly recommend it. It is a number 1 Amazon Best Selling book too, so I definitely recommend picking that up. Warren where is the best place for people to go to find out more about the book and to be able to connect with you guys?
