Joshua: Right, and you know one of the things that I love that you said there was, realizing that it was going to be a process. That’s one of the things I love so much about your’s and Margo’s book. You really have laid out a process for this and you make it clear that it doesn’t happen overnight. There is not a magic pill that just makes it happen tomorrow, but there are very specific, very strategic steps that you can do to expedite that process and get yourself back on track. So, let’s talk a little bit about some of those. You know one of the things that you talk about right away in the book is a concept called “The Faith Phenomenon.” Can you tell me just a little bit more about what that is and why that really becomes sort of the starting point of this process to recovery?
Warren: Well, we all know the power of faith and it’s something that media and religion makes reference to on quite a regular basis. The faith that we’re speaking of is a faith that things can get better. We don’t need to necessarily know in advance where we’re going to end up, what we’re going to end up doing or where we’re going to be. But the faith itself in that, that when we hold this faith that the potential is there, that we are going to recover, from whatever situation that we’re in, and that there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow or that this continued faith on a daily basis that I may be getting a little bit better. I may not have a whole lot of examples today but I’m that little bit further down the road now than I was a day before. Further, if an individual doesn’t begin to get what they want to start going for, the faith that they will get there and that this is going to materialize for them is really one of those critical initial steps in beginning to make our way out of some of these life trials or circumstances that we’ve had.
Joshua: Got it. So, what would be some of the practical ways that a person can cultivate The Faith Phenomenon that you’re talking about? What are some of the ways that a person might be able to do that especially if they’re having a really, really hard time finding anything to believe in, because they just feel like the rug was totally pulled out from underneath them?
Warren: Well, some of this in the beginning can be you fake it till you make it, and what I mean by that is our mind does not always know the difference between something we completely believe or don’t believe. As long as we think about it, we are beginning to write those neuro-pathways that allow us to move our way out. Some people especially in my practice come to me and say, “Well, I don’t have the feeling yet that things are gonna get better.” The feeling doesn’t necessarily need to be there, as long as they continue to have the faith, again that’s The Faith Phenomenon, that it will happen even if I’m not feeling it yet. The feeling that this can manifest now. As far as a process, one of the things we talk about in the book and one of the things I do with my clientele, is using meditation to aid in this process, that when we allow ourselves to calm down, use some breath work and maybe use some inspiring music or a sound track, something that inspires us a little better or lifts the mood a little bit that we can actually start pushing ourselves towards this growth that we’re looking for. It was absolutely instrumental in my recovery that the time that I would set aside to listen to 15 minutes or 30 minutes of meditative music or something that helped me create that meditative state of mind, this was a great way to move out of my own head and into the opportunity to start to see things in a different way.
Joshua: I think it’s one of those interesting things too where, especially as business owners or entrepreneurs, we operate in this world often which is, “Hey, I don’t know how this result is gonna come out but we will have faith that it will.” But it’s funny, in my own life I can have that faith in my business but in other areas of my life I question that. Even though it’s this similar concept. I don’t know if you ever experience that yourself?
Warren: Yeah I really have, it is an interesting thing. I coach a lot of entrepreneurs as well and they do experience this challenge far more than somebody who is going to work for somebody else.
Joshua: Why do you think that is?
Warren: Because we are the ones, as entrepreneurs, who are responsible for that vision. If you are a worker bee working for a bank or something of that kind, there are other people that are responsible for the strategic vision of the company. Entrepreneurs don’t have that luxury. We’re responsible for it and if we don’t have it, we’re flying blind.
Joshua: Right, right. And the beautiful thing about that too is that in the free fall experience when your life falls apart, as you guys love to say, one of the things it seems to me is that people are desperately seeking some sense of control and some sort of order again. And the thing that I love about this Faith Phenomenon concept is that it’s a very immediate way of taking back some semblance of control so that you align the ship in the right direction. After that you talk about what you call breaking that broken record so there is this inside dialog playing over and over again on repeat and that’s really kind of the next step in the process. Can you talk a little bit about that?
